Comments on: Welcome to a New World http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/06/welcome-to-a-new-world/ A revolution in time. Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: unperson http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/06/welcome-to-a-new-world/#comment-10 unperson Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:01:23 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=15#comment-10 again, mark, I live the rust belt now, and I plan on having my agency transfer me to cali, az or nm within a year.

But it does not matter. I have lived all over america, literally, and I have traveled half way across the world. Homo sapiens is more or less the same, with some variations.

Again, I am fairly certain you cherry pick the data. Also, I doubt that the people who are of the age groups that would sign up for cryonics are particularly atheistic. I think the best way to proceed for the next 100 years is to look for middle aged people in churches, and offer a brand of cryonics that is supported by the bible, and a brand of cryonics that is really really cheap and that is supported primarily by church members at the local level.

Rapid technological progress was an illusion. Time to retrench and seek refuge in religion until basic science and technology progress enough to revive some animal from LN2.

And, mike, you love homo sapiens from the distant past, but you hate homo sapiens of the present. Check yourself before you wreck yerself. Better start lovin’ the common man, cuz they are the salvation of cryonics

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By: Mark Plus http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/06/welcome-to-a-new-world/#comment-7 Mark Plus Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:15:16 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=15#comment-7 Unperson, you live in an unrepresentative part of the U.S. (Texas and the South). How would a religious presentation of cryonics work in parts of the U.S. like the Pacific Northwest and New England, where people display about half the level of religiosity as Southerners?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114022/state-states-importance-religion.aspx

In terms of religion, the Southern states also have more in common with countries like Egypt and Iran than they do with the more developed parts of the U.S. and with other developed countries:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/alabamians-iranians-common.aspx

In fact, the data conflict with the idea that existential issues make people religious. Western Europeans, Australians, Canadians, the Japanese, etc. die like everyone else; but they seem much less inclined to organize their lives around religion because of that fact than people in societies with more primitive cultures, like Texas.

Gregory S. Paul has also written about this trend based on his study of the social science research. He thinks social democracy, specifically the universal health insurance favored by progressives, plays a major role:

http://gspaulscienceofreligion.com/

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By: admin http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/06/welcome-to-a-new-world/#comment-4 admin Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:57:02 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=15#comment-4 The dictionary definition of religion is as follows;

re·li·gion [ ri líjjən ]

1. beliefs and worship: people’s beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities, and divine involvement in the universe and human life
2. system: an institutionalized or personal system of beliefs and practices relating to the divine
3. personal beliefs or values: a set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that somebody lives by

I have read what you have written here, and elsewhere, and I am now giving you that for which you ask. Be patient. We are not yet gods, but we can be. The road there is a long and hard one – filled with both hazard and adventure. So, listen, while I tell you a mystery…

Mike Darwin

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By: unperson http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/06/welcome-to-a-new-world/#comment-2 unperson Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:45:11 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=15#comment-2 you show a great appreciation for the history of man, but you seem to lack an appreciation for the mystical element in the modern human psyche. It is about the same as ever: homo sapiens cannot relate to the idea of life after death without using religion. Until a cryogospel is preached, cryonics will continue to fail. At least until science can provide a proof of concept by reviving an animal from LN2. And that is perhaps 100 years away.

And cryonics has failed. 1200 signups after 40+ years? A massive failure…because of your failure to understand some basic things about the human psyche.

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