Comments on: A Brief Pictorial History of Extracorporeal Technology in Cryonics – Part 5 http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/07/53/ A revolution in time. Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Jeffrey Sites http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/07/53/#comment-11222 Jeffrey Sites Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:17:11 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=53#comment-11222 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED BY THIS. IT’S REAL, VALID AND LIKE ROUTINE PERFUSION HAS TO BE MANAGED WITH A PROCESS AND GOAL IN MIND. I HAVE THE FIRST CLINICAL EXPERIENCE OF INDUCING SIGNIFICANT HYPERTHERMIA THERAPEUTICALLY (43.5 DEG C) AND ALWAYS WANTED TO EXPLORE THIS. I ALSO HAVE SUCCESSFULY RESUSCITATED MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO WERE SUFFERING SEVERE HYPOTHERMIA (<22 DEG C). WHAT IS THE STATUS AND WHERE IS THIS BEING DONE IN 2013?

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By: admin http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/07/53/#comment-2694 admin Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:56:21 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=53#comment-2694 Thanks for your comment; you are the first perfusionist, or for that matter, the first in any medicine-related discipline to comment. I don’t think Ms. Maxim’s actions had any roots in religion. She was hired to work as a perfusionist for a cryonics company in South Florida. Unfortunately, her experience there was not positive. In fact, much of her early criticism of perfusion in cryonics was either valid, or had some basis in fact. I spent ~ 5 days at this enterprise shortly before she was hired, and I can honestly say it was one of the weirdest experiences in my professional life – and coming from me – that’s saying something.

The practice of “perfusion” in cryonics has mostly been incompetent: and by that I mean riddled with iatrogenic events, such pumping air, having aortic root cannulae “pop out” during perfusion, subjecting a patient to a wall water leak through a disposable heat exchanger, and on and on. More recently, competent board certified percussionists are being used in the absence of a competent team leader – the equivalent of the perfusionist functioning in the complete absence of a cardiothoracic surgeon, or an appropriately trained interventional cardiologist. They are, in effect, presented with a cryonics patient and told to “perfuse him.” Missing from that equation are a careful pre-perfusion work-up and a thorough understanding of the possible complications or contraindications that might arise from the patient’s pre-cardiac arrest medical condition. Ditto any deep understanding of the physiology of perfusion under conditions of ultraprofound asanguineous hypothermia, let alone when cryoprotectants are present.

Interestingly, one of the things which outraged Ms. Maxim was my questioning her recommendations for the perfusion of cryonics patients. One of my concerns, which was unheeded, was the damaging effect of ethylene glycol and especially dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO) on polycarbonate, buna-N and PVC components in the circuit. Recently, I read a case account from the Cryonics Institute, who was following Ms. Maxim’s advice and reusing their centrifugal pump heads, that they experienced pump head failure during a case which they attributed to DMSO-induced degradation.

There are many, many such factors unique to the practice of perfusion in cryonics. This is pretty much what should be expected, since the conditions are so radically different than those seen in the clinic (i.e., long ischemic times, depth and duration of hypothermia, effects of cryoprotectant agents, etc.). My comments were not well received and Ms. Maxim seemed fixated on cryonics as medical fraud. Bad practice? There’s certainly plenty of that to go around, but fraud? Well, that requires that the people paying for the bad practice are being deliberately deceived. In fact, they know quite well what he state of affairs is – they simply don’t care – or don’t care enough to change it. — Mike Darwin

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By: dal880 http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/07/53/#comment-2686 dal880 Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:33:19 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=53#comment-2686 I find this very interesting and from what I have read, is an up front, honest account about what has/is going on. I have been a certified perfusionist for over 20 years and anyone “worth their salt” so to speak in the profession would know that this was not air in the raceway boot but, was indeed exactly as described. Sedimentation occurs in various areas of the perfusion circuit if there is no movement. The only things I can really think of why “their indiscriminate reign of terror” exists is because of ignorance, a religious component and the fact that they were made to look… well, ignorant with religion being the biggest factor as it is in almost everything.
Keep up the good work and as we all know, the discovery of new techniques and ways of doing things takes a huge amount of time and effort.

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By: admin http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/07/53/#comment-54 admin Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:53:11 +0000 http://chronopause.com/?p=53#comment-54 Thanks, but please, tell me what you find valuable about it? – Mike Darwin

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