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		<title>Comment on In Thy Orisons Be All My Sins Remembered* by chronopause</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/17/in-thy-orisons-be-all-my-sins-remembered/#comment-5390</link>
		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just looked at the map at your link, and if my memory is correct, the facility was somewhere on Lassen Street not too far from the mausoleums. I&#039;ve been there several times, the first time in 1974 when the mausoleums were under construction. The mausoleums sit on a rise and look down on the area where the CSC facility once was. If I recall correctly, the facility was on the right hand side of the road. In &#039;74 we climbed the hill in back of one of the mausoleums to see the two big perlite insulated cryogenic tanks that Nelson had purchased and which were to be used as &quot;multiple (patient) storage units,&quot;(MSUs). MSU was the jargon of the time for a single large vessel that would hold 10 or even 20 patients, the idea being  to reduce storage costs by reducing the heat leak via the improved surface to volume ratio. At that time, MSUs were perceived to be the holy grail of efficiency in cryonics and the NEXT BIG STEP FORWARD. -- Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just looked at the map at your link, and if my memory is correct, the facility was somewhere on Lassen Street not too far from the mausoleums. I&#8217;ve been there several times, the first time in 1974 when the mausoleums were under construction. The mausoleums sit on a rise and look down on the area where the CSC facility once was. If I recall correctly, the facility was on the right hand side of the road. In &#8217;74 we climbed the hill in back of one of the mausoleums to see the two big perlite insulated cryogenic tanks that Nelson had purchased and which were to be used as &#8220;multiple (patient) storage units,&#8221;(MSUs). MSU was the jargon of the time for a single large vessel that would hold 10 or even 20 patients, the idea being  to reduce storage costs by reducing the heat leak via the improved surface to volume ratio. At that time, MSUs were perceived to be the holy grail of efficiency in cryonics and the NEXT BIG STEP FORWARD. &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Thy Orisons Be All My Sins Remembered* by chronopause</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/17/in-thy-orisons-be-all-my-sins-remembered/#comment-5389</link>
		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 05:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea where the facility site was/is; I haven&#039;t been there in over 30 years. Oakwood Cemetery is easy enough to locate using Google Maps, but beyond that, I haven&#039;t the foggiest. I will inquire (if I can communicate effectively) with the author of the piece to see if he has the precise coordinates, which I presume would be a series of plot numbers in the cemetery. That would still require the cooperation of management. An alternative might possibly be to find someone in cryonics such as Mike Perry or Ken Blye who knows where the spot is and who could get GPS coordinates as well as generate a set of directions as to how to reach the site.

The original version of this article came to me in Russian and the machine translation to English was almost incomprehensible. I sent it to Danila Medvedev, who subsequently informed me that the Russian text, while original (not machine translated) was very poor Russian. Further inquiry resulted in a machine translated version (from Japanese to English????) which was usable, with much added editing. Communication has been abysmal and, had I not liked the ideas so much, I would not have put the considerable amount of time and trouble into making the article suitable for publication that I did. It&#039;s a very strange and intricate idea, but I like it a lot. -- Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea where the facility site was/is; I haven&#8217;t been there in over 30 years. Oakwood Cemetery is easy enough to locate using Google Maps, but beyond that, I haven&#8217;t the foggiest. I will inquire (if I can communicate effectively) with the author of the piece to see if he has the precise coordinates, which I presume would be a series of plot numbers in the cemetery. That would still require the cooperation of management. An alternative might possibly be to find someone in cryonics such as Mike Perry or Ken Blye who knows where the spot is and who could get GPS coordinates as well as generate a set of directions as to how to reach the site.</p>
<p>The original version of this article came to me in Russian and the machine translation to English was almost incomprehensible. I sent it to Danila Medvedev, who subsequently informed me that the Russian text, while original (not machine translated) was very poor Russian. Further inquiry resulted in a machine translated version (from Japanese to English????) which was usable, with much added editing. Communication has been abysmal and, had I not liked the ideas so much, I would not have put the considerable amount of time and trouble into making the article suitable for publication that I did. It&#8217;s a very strange and intricate idea, but I like it a lot. &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Thy Orisons Be All My Sins Remembered* by Mark Plus</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/17/in-thy-orisons-be-all-my-sins-remembered/#comment-5385</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would help if you could point out the location on the map:

http://g.co/maps/kaqj7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would help if you could point out the location on the map:</p>
<p><a href="http://g.co/maps/kaqj7" rel="nofollow">http://g.co/maps/kaqj7</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth and Memory in Cryonics by chronopause</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/12/myth-and-memory-in-cryonics/#comment-5354</link>
		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 06:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great minds think alike? -- Mike Darwin

PS, have you seen MONEYBALL yet? -- MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great minds think alike? &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
<p>PS, have you seen MONEYBALL yet? &#8212; MD</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take the Cryonics Intelligence Test by chronopause</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/06/take-the-cryonics-intelligence-test/#comment-5353</link>
		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I look forward to it. -- Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I look forward to it. &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take the Cryonics Intelligence Test by Alexander McLin</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/06/take-the-cryonics-intelligence-test/#comment-5351</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander McLin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, letting you know that I will be submitting to your email address my answers tomorrow morning.

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, letting you know that I will be submitting to your email address my answers tomorrow morning.</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth and Memory in Cryonics by Mark Plus</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2012/05/12/myth-and-memory-in-cryonics/#comment-5339</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 14:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin Hanson has a different take on the myth/story issue, but he doesn&#039;t reference your post:

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/05/stories-are-like-religion.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin Hanson has a different take on the myth/story issue, but he doesn&#8217;t reference your post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/05/stories-are-like-religion.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/05/stories-are-like-religion.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pathophysiology of Ischemic Injury:  Impact on the Human Cryopreservation Patient, Part 2 by chronopause</title>
		<link>http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/12/the-pathophysiology-of-ischemic-injury-impact-on-the-human-cryopreservation-patient-part-2/#comment-5325</link>
		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the URLs to all four parts of the article:
 
http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2n
 
http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2w
 
http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3q
 
http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3u

You might also be interested in: http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/23/does-personal-identity-survive-cryopreservation/

and:

http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/30/going-going-gone/

http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone%E2%80%A6-part-2/

http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone-part-3/

Thanks so much for your interest.
 
Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the URLs to all four parts of the article:</p>
<p><a href="http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2n" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2n</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2w" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p1sGcr-2w</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3q" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3q</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3u" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p1sGcr-3u</a></p>
<p>You might also be interested in: <a href="http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/23/does-personal-identity-survive-cryopreservation/" rel="nofollow">http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/02/23/does-personal-identity-survive-cryopreservation/</a></p>
<p>and:</p>
<p><a href="http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/30/going-going-gone/" rel="nofollow">http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/30/going-going-gone/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone%E2%80%A6-part-2/" rel="nofollow">http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone%E2%80%A6-part-2/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone-part-3/" rel="nofollow">http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/05/31/going-going-gone-part-3/</a></p>
<p>Thanks so much for your interest.</p>
<p>Mike Darwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth and Memory in Cryonics by chronopause</title>
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		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be a great idea if I were in a different situation. It may still happen, someday. -- Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a great idea if I were in a different situation. It may still happen, someday. &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pathophysiology of Ischemic Injury:  Impact on the Human Cryopreservation Patient, Part 2 by chronopause</title>
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		<dc:creator>chronopause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;How can we set up institutions to make cryonics understandable to people born in 2012, 2052, 2102, etc., who will have fundamentally different experiences and expectations about “the future” from the ones we grew up with? I see little to no interest in dealing with these problems in the cryonics community, much less discussing them.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Mark, I think I saw an ad for the film MONEYBALL on Starz. It&#039;s ostensibly a movie about baseball. I have no interest in baseball. If you want an answer to the question you pose (from me), watch MONEYBALL. If you&#039;ve seen it before, watch it again; this time with cryonics explicitly in mind. Think about CI, Alcor, all of it - reflect on cryonics as it exists today as you watch the movie. If MONEYBALL isn&#039;t on Starz yet, it is surely in Redbox, or available from Netflix.  

Once you&#039;ve watched it and had some time to think about it, let me know, and I&#039;ll answer your question. -- Mike Darwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;How can we set up institutions to make cryonics understandable to people born in 2012, 2052, 2102, etc., who will have fundamentally different experiences and expectations about “the future” from the ones we grew up with? I see little to no interest in dealing with these problems in the cryonics community, much less discussing them.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Mark, I think I saw an ad for the film MONEYBALL on Starz. It&#8217;s ostensibly a movie about baseball. I have no interest in baseball. If you want an answer to the question you pose (from me), watch MONEYBALL. If you&#8217;ve seen it before, watch it again; this time with cryonics explicitly in mind. Think about CI, Alcor, all of it &#8211; reflect on cryonics as it exists today as you watch the movie. If MONEYBALL isn&#8217;t on Starz yet, it is surely in Redbox, or available from Netflix.  </p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve watched it and had some time to think about it, let me know, and I&#8217;ll answer your question. &#8212; Mike Darwin</p>
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